Just Schools

Seeing Whole People: Matt Hazenberg and Eric Bulthuis

I'm so thrilled to share today's episode with you. I am joined today by Matt and Eric as we dive deep into well-being, belonging, and the fascinating world of education. Matt and Eric are wonderful educators in Canada and are doing remarkable work in fostering a sense of belonging for international students and enhancing the well-being of every student in their respective schools.In this engaging conversation, we explore their unique approaches to creating a vibrant school culture, from multicultural clubs to innovative events like multicultural weeks. Matt, the Vice Principal and International Student Coordinator at Woodland Christian High School, shares his insights into redefining the narrative around international students, emphasizing the importance of fostering genuine relationships and a sense of belonging. Meanwhile, Eric, Athletic Director and teacher at King's Christian Collegiate, sheds light on the collective efforts to prioritize student well-being, especially in the post-pandemic landscape.As we delve into the challenges and triumphs of education, we touch upon the impactful concept of restorative justice and its varied implementations. Discover how these educators are navigating the evolving educational landscape, tackling issues such as technology barriers, and instilling empathy as a core value in students. Tune in, and join us for this enlightening educational discussion!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:37] - Today’s guests are Matt Hazenberg and Eric Bulthuis![1:43] - Matt is the vice principal international student coordinator at Woodland Christian High School in Kitchener, Ontario, inspired by childhood teachers and a passion for learning.[2:21] - Matt has been teaching since September 2015.[2:26] - Eric, at King's Christian Collegiate in Oakville, Ontario, embraces education inspired by his parents, both of whom were teachers.[3:58] - Matt explains how he transformed the international student program at his school, prioritizing belonging through a multicultural approach.[6:56] - Eric emphasizes the importance of student well-being and implementing diverse programs.[9:20] - Addressing student discipline, Matt emphasizes a restorative justice approach to mend relationships and build community.[11:31] - Eric notes the universal care and love in handling discipline, emphasizing shared values across diverse schools.[12:34] - Matt discusses alternatives to student removal, highlighting a Mennonite-inspired approach.[15:17] - Eric envisions a collective effort for student well-being, emphasizing unity and collaboration in achieving goals.[16:18] - Matt emphasizes the post-pandemic challenge of re-establishing school culture, aiming for renewed student interactions and engagement.[19:16] - Matt stresses the value of collective effort, acknowledging individual limitations and the need for collaboration.[19:37] - Eric received advice to avoid smiling until November for classroom management but disagrees, choosing to prioritize building connections.[20:33] - The best piece of advice that Matt received was about the importance of learning to say no and set boundaries for well-being.[21:00] - Eric advocates for the transformative power of loving first, erasing labels like "bad kids" for a better teaching experience.[21:44] - Addressing the challenge of technology barriers, Matt aims to foster present community engagement beyond just the classroom.[22:17] - Eric emphasizes the crucial task of teaching and fostering empathy for a more compassionate future.[22:37] - I emphasize leading with love and fostering empathy, viewing AI as an exciting yet challenging educational prospect.[23:37] - Matt envisions Christian school educators expanding their network, fostering collaboration and learning across North America and beyond.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcslResources Mentioned:Rita Pierson - “Every kid needs a champion” TED TalkBob Goff - Love Does: Discover a Secretly Incredible Life in an Ordinary World

Fun in 2024: Erik Ellefsen

I am so excited to have my best friend Erik Ellefsen on the podcast today to reflect on the highlights of 2023 in education and set our sights on what excites us in 2024!Erik, with his extensive global school experiences, shares insights into the joy he finds in the brilliance of educators and the challenges they overcome. We delve into memorable school visits, from the historic Windsor Castle to the modest Reagan Ranch, sparking thoughts on the impact of educational experiences.We discuss the transformative power of engagement and how it resonates through the pages of my book Just Teaching, and we enthuse over a favorite school visit featuring fifth graders in England joyfully embracing hands-on learning despite the constant rain. As we look ahead to 2024, we ponder the importance of becoming more human in our work, emphasizing the value of genuine connection and collaboration in an era dominated by technological advancements.I can’t wait for you to join us in this engaging conversation, which is definitely one of my favorite episodes of the podcast so far. It’s filled with laughter, insights, and a touch of the ridiculousness that makes the journey of education all the more enjoyable!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:37] - Reflecting on positive developments in education in 2023, Erik Ellefson and I are discussing anticipated exciting prospects for 2024.[1:57] - What has brought me joy in 2023?[3:59] - I share the joy of meaningful work in Southeast Asia, highlighting family involvement and achieving balance.[4:40] - Erik highlights speaking at Windsor Castle and visiting Rancho del Cielo, noting the unique experiences.[6:51] - Erik expresses joy in working with a San Jose elementary school, emphasizing their commitment to improvement.[8:21] - Hear about a standout moment in England involving fifth graders' enthusiasm for hands-on, low-tech learning.[11:51] - What am I more convinced is important in schools after having written Just Schools?[14:26] - Erik agrees that engagement is important, emphasizing its priority over temporary provisions for wellbeing.[17:24] - Erik highlights the importance of cultivating a culture of celebration and support in professional settings.[19:26] - Erik doubles down on the importance of collaborative, collective leadership in addressing deep-rooted issues in education.[20:49] - I envision the next book focusing on catalytic leadership and building thriving learning communities collaboratively.[22:46] - I hope for a more human approach in the face of advancing technology, emphasizing grace, challenge, love, and fun in collaborative work.[25:54] - Hear Erik and I share our favorite books of 2023.[26:55] - Erik asserts that phones being used for non-educational purposes in schools is frustrating.[28:22] - Hear us discuss the positive, hopeful aspects of artificial intelligence.[29:31] - Have fun doing the work!Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcslBooks Mentioned:Jonathan Eckert - Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each StudentBob Drury - The Heart of Everything That Is: The Untold Story of Red Cloud, An American LegendDavid Brooks - How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen

Leading with Empathy: Anna Surratt

I hope that you will join me for this episode as I sit down with Anna Surratt, a remarkable educator with nearly two decades of teaching experience in both public and Christian schools. We delve into her expertise in empathy-based leadership and design thinking, exploring how these tools contribute to fostering strong relationships and creating positive change in the education landscape.Anna shares insightful stories from her journey, highlighting the importance of vulnerability and trust in building a culture of improvement. We also touch on the power of improvement networks, where schools come together to address shared challenges, emphasizing the courage that arises from vulnerability.As we navigate the complexities of education, our conversation reveals the transformative impact of focusing on relationships, understanding perspectives, and striving for continuous improvement. Please listen in for a conversation filled with wisdom and inspiration as we explore the heart of education and the pursuit of positive change!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:37] - Learn a bit about today’s guest, Anna Surratt.[2:05] - Anna dives deeper into her background.[4:40] - Anna describes a challenging hotel experience, highlighting discomfort and safety concerns during a work trip.[7:17] - Hear how Anna champions design thinking.[9:35] - Anna identifies clarity as crucial to fostering innovation.[12:52] - Anna strongly emphasizes the importance of trust.[14:27] - Vulnerability sparks courage, fostering deep empathy and collaborative progress toward shared goals.[16:23] - Anna highlights how a heartbreaking tale of an educator craving impactful feedback spurred a leadership quest for change.[18:16] - What is the best advice and worst advice that Anna has ever received?[19:47] - Staffing is what concerns Anna the most about the upcoming year.[21:32] - Anna argues that teachers need to be empowered by connecting actions to real student outcomes.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcsl

Using Technology to Build Relationships: Colin Roe

Join me this week on the podcast as I delve into a conversation with Colin Roe, a middle school technology and Bible teacher at Faith Christian School. Colin shares insights into the challenges of technology in education and emphasizes the importance of using it to build relationships with students, and he and I explore topics such as digital citizenship, the impact of technology on students' well-being, and the need for positive interactions face to face. Colin also discusses practical ways he leverages technology, like the use of Quizlet and Menti, to enhance learning experiences for his students. As we navigate the complexities of technology in education, Colin's perspective offers a balance between caution and hope, grounded in a desire to make teaching more human.During our conversation, we also address the pervasive issue of students' heavy reliance on technology such as smartphones, sharing alarming statistics that highlight the negative impact of excessive screen time on mental health. Colin also sheds light on the rise of narcissism in young children due to the lack of face-to-face interactions caused by parents' phone use during critical developmental years.Despite such challenges, however, Colin provides valuable advice to educators, encouraging them to prioritize positive, face-to-face interactions with students to foster a sense of care and connection. Join us on this episode as we explore the dynamic intersection of technology and humanity in education!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:37] - Today’s guest is middle school Technology and Bible teacher Colin Roe.[1:42] - Colin shares some background information about himself with us.[3:31] - Digital citizenship educates students on responsible technology use, fostering positive relationships and countering loneliness.[6:07] - I emphasize enhancing, not replacing, interpersonal connections, aiming to counter students' worth tied to online metrics.[7:24] - Colin fosters meaningful interaction by eliminating cell phones in school, encouraging diverse discussions and promoting genuine connections during events.[10:10] - Colin underscores the effects of excessive phone use on students' mental well-being.[12:14] - I advocate for reframing phone use as an addition, not a subtraction, in education.[14:49] - It's important for adults to model healthy technology behavior for children.[16:13] - Colin highlights a study showing a rise in narcissism in young children due to parental phone use.[17:46] - Hear how Colin uses technology to communicate with his team, provide feedback, and connect with students.[19:20] - Colin identifies his favorite education technology to be Quizlet.[20:35] - I highlight the challenge of academic integrity in an age of ever evolving technology.[22:38] - What does Colin like about Menti?[24:32] - Colin emphasizes the important role of face-to-face positive interactions with students.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcsl

From Irrelevant to Valuable: Jami Courson

I had the honor and privilege to talk with Jami Courson, a dedicated high school teacher in Texas, whose journey in education has been nothing short of transformative. Despite initially aiming for a career in medicine, Jami found her calling in teaching and coaching, and over her 22 years in the profession, she has faced burnout and challenges but discovered renewed purpose through community and faith.Tune in as Jami candidly shares her experiences, highlighting the struggles educators face, from emotional exhaustion to financial strain. We delve into the complexities of teaching in the current landscape, where students often perceive school as irrelevant.Jami’s story is truly one of resilience, faith, and the power of community. Join us as we explore the value of education, the importance of authentic relationships with students, and the ways in which teachers can find fulfillment and purpose amidst the challenges of our profession. Together, let's rediscover the true significance of education and inspire a generation to see school not just as a necessity, but as something profoundly valuable!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:40] - Today’s interview is with Texas teacher Jami Courson.[2:22] - Jami shares her path from being an aspiring doctor to a dedicated educator.[3:52] - Jami has been teaching for 22 years.[4:41] - Jami was worn out but found renewed purpose after a pivotal meeting.[7:26] - Jami feels that educators are missing and crave a sense of community.[10:24] - Inadequate compensation strains educators.[12:45] - Jami argues that teachers must advocate for policy change.[14:58] - Teachers are embracing leadership, seeking ways to improve schools while backed by supportive administrators.[16:48] - Hear a personal example from Jami of teachers providing critical support for students.[19:45] - What is the worst advice and the best advice that Jami has received as an educator?[20:55] - By authentically living her faith, Jami answers students' questions and fosters connections.[23:33] - Jami feels that many students see school as irrelevant.[24:12] - Jami wants her students to see education as not only relevant but also valuable.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcsl

Transforming Communities: Gaby Garcia and Kim Poe

Tune into this episode of the show because I am thrilled to introduce you to two extraordinary educators, Gaby Garcia and Kim Poe, from Augustine Prep in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. These incredible individuals are transforming communities on the South Side of Milwaukee, where their school is located. What's truly inspiring is how their efforts have significantly impacted the neighborhood; crime rates dropped by a staggering 42% after OG Prep's presence. Now, they're expanding to a new campus on the North Side, aiming to create integrated campuses that empower students and families alike.Together, Gaby and Kim share their unique journeys into education, highlighting the school's core values centered around faith, family, and community. You'll hear about their innovative approach, fostering a culture of trust, growth, and belonging among students, all while witnessing profound life-giving moments.Join us as we explore the challenges, hopes, and transformative power of education, and discover how these dedicated educators are making a real difference in the lives of their students!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:37] - Today’s guests are Gaby Garcia and Kim Poe of Augustine Prep![1:59] - Gaby gives us some background information.[3:17] - Hear a little bit about Kim and her background.[5:27] - Kim emphasizes a family-oriented, safe, and supportive environment for students and the community.[8:11] - Kim prioritizes feedback, student engagement, and well-being.[10:27] - Gaby empowers high school students as leaders, fostering confidence, professionalism, and community involvement.[13:35] - Kim highlights powerful moments of faith and unity among students, inspiring her daily.[15:02] - Gaby highlights a story of a freshman's unwavering faith and leadership influence.[17:29] - Kim discusses plans for a new Offsite Prep School in Milwaukee, focusing on equal opportunities and innovative education.[19:42] - I emphasize the importance of excellence in education at Prep, praising leadership.[21:36] - What's the best advice Gaby and Kim have received as educators?[23:51] - Gaby finds hope in addressing educational disparities.[25:10] - Kim acknowledges Milwaukee's racial segregation, focusing on bridging gaps especially on new campuses.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcsl

From Fatigue to Joy: Bryan Goodwin

Listen in today as I sit down with Bryan Goodwin, President and CEO of McREL International, and an experienced educator, to explore the intersection of science, art, and the joy found in teaching. We dive into the phases of learning, discussing how curiosity is the key to engaging students, followed by commitment, focus, consolidation, practice, reflection, and finally, extension and application.We also emphasize the importance of planning for learning rather than just teaching and how understanding the science of learning can bring true joy to the classroom, and we touch upon the challenges educators face, such as burnout, and how elevating the teaching profession and fostering a culture of curiosity can lead to more joyful and fulfilling learning experiences.Join us as we share insights and inspiration for creating joyful, curious, and engaging learning environments!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[0:37] - Today’s guest is Bryan Goodwin of McREL International.[2:15] - What drew Bryan to education?[2:52] - Bryan’s first job was in Saint Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands.[4:53] - Bryan argues that understanding the 'why' behind teaching fosters engagement.[6:36] - Engagement and commitment are fundamental; teaching must inspire curiosity and active involvement.[8:30] - Bryan points out how short-term memory is limited; effective teaching utilizes visuals and keeps content concise.[10:28] - Bryan explains how repetition enhances memory and retention.[12:33] - It's important not just to remember knowledge but to have done something meaningful with it.[13:16] - Bryan adds that designing learning around how kids' brains work makes teaching easier and more joyful.[16:05] - Experienced teachers, similar to veteran quarterbacks, adapt strategies based on students' needs and engagement.[17:45] - Teacher burnout and fatigue is what worries Bryan the most.[19:41] - Bryan finds hope in the power of curiosity, making education engaging and impactful.[21:19] - Positive classroom environments and meaningful work in Australia effectively retain engaged teachers.[23:51] - Bryan describes current United States education as fatigued.[24:01] - Bryan hopes to see schools become more joyful and curious.[24:14] - Hear some helpful advice for educators.[25:03] - We are encouraged to write, blog, and refine because sharing ideas builds expertise.[26:02] - In conclusion, we want schools to move from fatigue to joy and curiosity.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcsl

Gritty Optimism with Wonder and Magic: Eli Spector and Sierra Downs

In this episode of the Just Schools Podcast, join me (your host Jon Eckert) as I sit down with Sierra Downs and Eli Spector, two remarkable educators from Front Range Christian School in Colorado!We explore the wonder and magic that defines their school environment, fostering academic excellence and student well-being. Through their authentic experiences, we discover the power of relational leadership and the impact of teachers like Phil Schultz and Kelly Stidham, who inspire through quirkiness and honesty.Their story encapsulates the essence of collective leadership, offering a glimpse into the transformative potential of education, so tune in for a brief yet heartfelt discussion on the joy found in genuine connections within the teaching profession!To learn more, order Jon's book, Just Teaching: Feedback, Engagement, and Well-Being for Each Student.The Just Schools Podcast is brought to you by the Baylor Center for School Leadership. Each week, we'll talk to catalytic educators who are doing amazing work.Be encouraged.Timestamps:[1:47] - Sierra introduces herself.[3:13] - Eli shares some information about himself with us.[4:46] - Sierra feels that educators create magic, fostering wonder, holistic growth, and academic excellence.[7:02] - Eli credits Phil Schultz for embracing quirkiness in the classroom.[9:00] - Sierra mentions Kelly Stidham, the head English teacher, who embodies honesty, mastery, and genuine love in the classroom.[12:30] - Sierra emphasizes celebrating teachers' professional successes.[14:15] - Eli and Sierra work collectively which promotes emotional fulfillment.[17:05] - Sierra adds that with collective leadership, relational modeling fosters genuine change and influence.[19:00] - Experiencing laughter, learning, and affirmation in education's network effect was impactful for Sierra.[20:41] - Eli feels reinvigorated by the shared optimism and determination in education.[22:36] - Sierra and Eli wrap up with some advice for educators.Connect on Social Media:Baylor MA in School LeadershipBaylor Doctorate in EducationJon Eckert: @eckertjonCenter for School Leadership at Baylor University: @baylorcsl